In this episode Addison Berry has fellow Lullabots Sally Young and Juampy Novillo Requena sit down to discuss their recent work on "decoupling" Drupal. This is based on concepts like COPE, which was pioneered by NPR (National Public Radio), and posits the benefits of completely separating content and editorial workflow from the presentation. Within Drupal, that means using Drupal to manage the content, but not using Drupal's theme layer at all. Instead we talk about how they use Drupal to create APIs which can be used as web services by any front end technology you'd like, such as AngularJS, iOS, or Symfony2. Find out what they're on about, and how they've been doing this with Drupal on recent projects.