---
title: "Syntax is Syntax? Lullabot's Non-Drupal Development Work"
url: "/podcasts/drupalizeme-podcast/nondrupal-development-thoughts"
type: episode
date: 2016-09-08
updated: 2016-09-08
---

# Syntax is Syntax? Lullabot's Non-Drupal Development Work

#  Syntax is Syntax? Lullabot's Non-Drupal Development Work 

  

*Podcast episode player*

Did you know that Lullabot does a significant amount of non-Drupal work? Matt and Mike sit down with several Lullabots who are working on non-Drupal projects including Node, Swift, and React. We talk pros and cons of working in various languages, how they compare with Drupal and PHP.

##  Episode Guests 

###  Betty Tran 

 ![Betty Tran wearing a white blouse with black collar in front of a gray background.](/sites/default/files/styles/square_120x120/public/2023-06/betty-tran.jpg?itok=7ZSHSbnm) 

 Betty is a former senior developer at Lullabot.

 [  More about Betty   ](/about/betty-tran) 

###  Ben Chavet 

 ![Thumbnail](/sites/default/files/styles/square_120x120/public/bios/headshots-comp_0008_ben.jpg.jpg?itok=xowizYny "headshots-comp_0008_ben.jpg.jpg") 

 Ben was formerly a Senior Systems Architect at Lullabot.

 [  More about Ben   ](/about/ben-chavet) 

###  Joe Fender 

 ![Thumbnail](/sites/default/files/styles/square_120x120/public/bios/headshots-comp_0050_joefender.jpg_copy_2.jpg?itok=rHYkfJ41 "headshots-comp_0050_joefender.jpg_copy.jpg") 

 Joe Fender is a former Senior Developer at Lullabot who has been building websites since he was 10 years old. He's older now... still making websites.

 [  More about Joe   ](/about/joe-fender) 

###  Angus Mak 

 ![Profile Image of Angus Mak](/sites/default/files/styles/square_120x120/public/2019-03/DSCF0845.jpg?itok=x7ydulvf) 

 When he’s not kicking ass on Lullabot projects, Angus is either dog training or fishing.

 [  More about Angus   ](/about/angus-mak) 

###  Mateu Aguiló Bosch 

 ![Mateu Aguilo Bosch wearing a white button down shirt with black t-shirt underneath in front of a gray background.](/sites/default/files/styles/square_120x120/public/2023-06/mateu-aguilo-bosch.jpg?itok=4Yb5dTeg) 

 Mateu Aguiló Bosch is a Lead Engineer with extensive experience in API design, Node.js development and contribution, and distributed architectures in the cloud. He loves to be under the sun.

 [  More about Mateu   ](/about/mateu-aguilo-bosch) 

##  Mentioned in this Episode 

- [  Build native iOS and Android apps with React Native   ](/articles/build-native-ios-and-android-apps-with-react-native)
- [  Processing forms in React   ](/articles/processing-forms-in-react)
- [  Why We Built Tugboat.QA   ](/articles/why-we-built-tugboatqa)
- [  Tizen   ](https://www.tizen.org/)
- [  Joe Fender's App: Kaiwa: Chat to Learn Languages   ](https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/kaiwa-chat-to-learn-languages/id1109017934)
- [  Genymotion   ](https://www.genymotion.com/)
- [  Yonder Podcast   ](http://www.yonder.io/post?category=Podcast)
- [  Joe Fender's ForwardJS presentation: React Native: Learn from my mistakes   ](https://forwardcourses.com/lectures/138)
- [  Choosing the Right JavaScript Framework for the Job   ](/articles/choosing-the-right-javascript-framework-for-the-job)

 Published in:

- [  JavaScript   ](/topics/javascript)
- [  Mobile   ](/topics/mobile)