---
title: "Users Gonna Use—How Lullabot Does Usability Testing"
url: "/podcasts/drupalizeme-podcast/how-lullabot-does-usability-testing"
type: episode
date: 2017-03-02
updated: 2017-03-03
---

# Users Gonna Use—How Lullabot Does Usability Testing

#  Users Gonna Use—How Lullabot Does Usability Testing 

  

*Podcast episode player*

Matt and Mike sit down with three of Lullabot's senior UX designers to talk the ins and outs of usability testing within our design process.

##  Episode Guests 

###  Marissa Epstein 

 ![Marissa Epstein is a woman in her mid-30s with long brown hair shaved on one side, wearing a purple and black blouse, purple cat-eye glasses, a silver necklace, and a smirk.](/sites/default/files/styles/square_120x120/public/2024-03/lulabot.headshots.palm_.springs.resort.monocle.project-60_0.jpg?itok=nq-_PAgs) 

 Marissa is a former senior user experience strategist at Lullabot.

 [  More about Marissa   ](/about/marissa-epstein) 

###  Maggie Griner 

 ![Maggie](/sites/default/files/styles/square_120x120/public/2020-08/griner-cropped_0.jpg?itok=moxg9Iq-) 

 Maggie Griner fell in love with web design during the last class of her senior year of college and has pursued that passion ever since.

 [  More about Maggie   ](/about/maggie-griner) 

###  Jen Witkowski 

 ![Jen Witkowski wearing a teal top in front of a blue background.](/sites/default/files/styles/square_120x120/public/2023-06/jen-witkowski.jpg?itok=RIcmYoaV) 

 Jen Witkowski is the Associate Design Director at Lullabot with a passion for creating well-architected websites that provide a great user experience for desktop and mobile devices.

 [  More about Jen   ](/about/jen-witkowski) 

##  Mentioned in this Episode 

- [  InVision App   ](https://www.invisionapp.com/)
- [  Screenflow   ](https://www.telestream.net/screenflow/overview.htm)
- [  UserTesting.com   ](https://www.usertesting.com/)
- [  Validately   ](https://validately.com/)
- [  Nielsen Norman Group   ](https://www.nngroup.com/)
- [  Silverback   ](http://silverbackapp.com/)
- [  Rocket Surgery Made Easy by Steve Krug   ](https://www.amazon.com/Rocket-Surgery-Made-Easy-Yourself-ebook/dp/B002UXRGNO)

 Published in:

- [  Digital & Content Strategy   ](/topics/content-strategy)
- [  UX & Design   ](/topics/design-and-ux)