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Lullabot Podcast 82: How Do You Pronounce Ægir?
Listen online:
- LullabotPodcastNo82.mp3
Nate Haug, Jeff Eaton, Addi Berry, Karen Stevenson, Jerad Bitner, and Dave Burns join Jeff Robbins to talk about the latest Drupal news and try to figure out how to pronounce certain Old Norse words.
Links
http://www.frozendeadguy.com ;-)
http://sf2010.drupal.org/conference/pre-conference-trainings
http://drupal.org/project/stalker
http://drupal.org/project/coder
http://drupal.org/update/modules/6/7
Categorical list of module upgrades: http://drupal.org/node/394070
http://sf2010.drupal.org/conference/pre-conference-trainings
Dries' Drupal 7 release plan post: http://drupal.org/node/725382
D6->D7 Field Upgrade Task Wiki: http://groups.drupal.org/node/24214
D6->D7 Updating CCK Field Modules Instructions: http://drupal.org/node/728792
http://drupal.org/project/innovationnewsprofile
Ægir:
http://groups.drupal.org/aegir/overview
http://drupal.org/project/hostmaster
http://drupal.org/project/provision
http://drupal.org/project/hosting
http://groups.drupal.org/aegir-hosting-system (has links to all projects)
http://vimeo.com/mig5
Comments
I don't really care how you say Ægir
as long as you say it =)
We have south african, australian and french canadian accents at play in the development team, so i'm not even convinced we all say it the same way.
but for whom it may concern :
'my name is adrian rossouw, and i pronounce Ægir as ay-ghur'
Hey the fieldapi is already
Hey the fieldapi is already in :) I think i know this, because i commited it :)
Instructions for developers
The instructions for developers on how to update field modules from D6 to D7 is what I was referring to, it's a work in progress at http://drupal.org/node/728792. More importantly, we still need to get the field upgrade path written.
Pronounciation
Actually, my sister lives in Norway, and tells me it's 'eee-geer' :) Somehow I still say 'ayy-geeer' though.
Nice podcast!
And upgrading to new releases is ridiculously easy and stable
We've automated it to a great level since the alpha 3 release.
after upgrading drush, provision and drush make to the right versions, you only need to run a single command and the entire process is done for you.
the hosting front end is self-hosting, so those provision commands you like so much can be used to manage the front end too.
Depends on which language you want to pronounce it in
In Norwegian it would be [e:gir], but I assume Icelandic would have a diphtong in the first syllable, sth. like [aj:gir]. Danish would be closer to Norwegian, but with a very soft "r" in the end, etc.
Why on earth do you want to pronounce that word? Aren't there more important words to start with? "Poverty", "Freedom", "vuggesang", "Stallman"... ? :)
It was a fun podcast
you made us wait for 2 months but after 2 months you people have grown bigger :), put out drupal module development videos and most importantly given out a great fun podcast to listen to. Good job bots keep it up :).
aegis as a guide to aegir
Just to confuse things more, I figure we should use a soft g rather than a hard g.
So if we pronounce aegis as ee'jiss (http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/aegis?view=uk) or, in the US, ee'jiss or eh'jiss (that's a long a at the beginning - http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/aegis), I figure aegir should be pronounced in English as ee'jir or eh'jir.
Merriam Webster does have Aegir in their paid subscription dictionary, but, I'll leave it to someone else to let us know what it provides as an English pronounciation of it.
Scandinavia to the rescue!
I'm Norwegian, and as far as I can tell, Eyolf got it right. But the truth is no one really knows how it should be pronounced, as the old norse language is long dead and the only clues we have today is modern Icelandic and old Norwegian dialects. So the easy answer here is to pronounce it however you like, nobody will get it right anyway :)
I did post a comment on Arrayshift about this, with a pronounciation guide I worked out from a Wikipedia article on norse phonetics. (Yes, I actually spent some time on this..) Something along the lines of [?:gir] (IPA) with a soft g is how norse linguists think it was once pronounced.
Hope that helps :)
IPA
The IPA code didn't turn out right. Should be [ɛ:gir].
I'm no linguist..
but I came across this 2008 post during the podcast to back up the "ee-ger" pronunciation:
http://raincitystudios.com/topics/aeger
If it's on the internet, it must be correct (present comments excepted).