Lullabot Drupal Podcast

Podcast 102: DrupalCon Denver Wrapup

jeff — Fri, 13 Apr 2012 14:42:22 +0000

Jeff Eaton, Joe Shindelar, Sally Young, and Kyle Hofmeyer join Jeff Robbins to discuss the latest Drupal news and look back at DrupalCon Denver.

Release Date: April 13, 2012 - 9:42am

Album: Lullabot Podcast

Length: 61:16 minutes (23.08 MB)

Format: mono 44kHz 52Kbps (vbr)

Podcast 101: Blue Drop Awards

jeff — Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:26:06 +0000

Jeff Robbins talks with Volacci's Ben Finklea about the Blue Drop Awards.

Release Date: February 24, 2012 - 10:26am

Album: Lullabot Podcast

Length: 58:03 minutes (22.49 MB)

Format: mono 44kHz 54Kbps (vbr)

Podcast 100: A Look Back

jeff — Thu, 19 Jan 2012 20:24:29 +0000

Nate Haug, Jeff Eaton, Addi Berry, Matt Westgate, and Jeff Robbins reminisce on the past 6 years of Lullabot, running a virtual company, the ways in which Drupal has changed, and visit a few of the projects we've worked on.

Release Date: January 19, 2012 - 3:24pm

Album: Lullabot Podcast

Length: 77:50 minutes (30.53 MB)

Format: mono 44kHz 54Kbps (vbr)

Lullabot Podcast 99: Drupalize.me 1-year Retrospective

kentbye — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 09:41:43 +0000

Addison Berry, Kent Bye, Jared Ponchot, Joe Shindelar & Michelle Lauer do a one-year retrospective of the Drupalize.me video subscription site of Drupal training videos. We cover some of our lessons learned and what has evolved over the past year in terms of the site as well as our internal processes.

Topics discussed include:

Special considerations for setting up a recurring payment subscription service
Moving payment system from PayPal to Authorize.net
Difference between having gateway payment profiles vs. having Drupal control it
Payment & discount option flexibility with Authorize.net
Development environment considerations for e-commerce sites
Changing to a more rapid prototyping design process after the initial design of a site has been established
The evolution of the project management and release cycle management
Drupalize.me iOS app & Drupalize.me Android app development
Developing the Videola distribution while creating the initial site

Release Date: November 4, 2011 - 4:41am

Album: Lullabot Podcast

Length: 59:53 minutes (41.16 MB)

Format: mono 44kHz 96Kbps (cbr)

Podcast 98: Live from Do It With Drupal 2011

jeff — Fri, 28 Oct 2011 16:21:13 +0000

Joe Shindelar, Earl Miles, Ryan Szrama, Greg Dunlap, Sally Young, Jeff Eaton, Jason Pamental, and Jeff Robbins wrap up the Do It With Drupal conference and take questions from the audience.

Release Date: October 28, 2011 - 11:21am

Album: Lullabot Podcast

Length: 76:45 minutes (27.74 MB)

Format: mono 44kHz 50Kbps (vbr)

Podcast 97: Drupal Drama: Burnout, D7 Retrospective & Product vs. Framework debate

kentbye — Fri, 16 Sep 2011 05:29:31 +0000

In this podcast, Kent Bye talks with Jeff Eaton and a couple of the top Drupal core contributors from Drupal 7, Daniel "sun" Kudwien and Nathaniel "catch" Catchpole. They discuss the maintainability of Drupal core, a retrospective of the ups and downs of the Drupal 7 development cycle, and alternate roadmaps for the future of Drupal core. Developer burnout is also becoming more of an issue, and they talk about the importance of recruiting more "code gardeners" to help review and evaluate core patches.

Although the online comments about these topics have been contentious at times, we feel that they need to be discussed, with the goal of improving Drupal for everyone. Listen in for a wide-ranging and engaging discussion about the Drupal project and the concerns some of the core contributors are wrestling with today.

Show notes

At the beginning of DrupalCon London, one of the top Drupal core developers named Daniel Kudwien (aka ""sun") posted a blog called "The Drupal Crisis" about the woes of the Drupal 7 development cycle. He claimed that "Drupal core is not maintainable anymore. There's too much cruft. Too many half-baked features that no one actually maintains." and that "We need to be a solid framework, and also a basic but extensible CMS, like we've always been."

After lots of discussion on this post, sun wrote a follow-up blog post with a number of conclusions, including, "We need to discuss, propose, agree, and define what we are able and want to maintain in Drupal core," "which core features are actually product features," and "whether we can or want to move product features into a separate product project in the long-term."

Channelling this interest into action, sun created a number of different issues within the drupal.org issue queue including this list of Discussion items and this "Make core maintainable" issue, which generated nearly 300 comments.

The "Make core maintainable" issue quickly turned into a discussion of which modules to remove from Drupal 8 core, and the question of what should stay and what should go led some core developers like Crell, eaton and catch to call for a more defined set of heuristics that the Drupal core maintainers could use in determining what should be included within the Drupal core product.

This discussion eventually led Jeff Eaton to create a spin-off issue called "Establish heuristics for core feature evaluation" that tries to lay out a list of criteria for evaluating which features should stay and what modules should go.

Asking what modules belong in core and which ones should be removed can be answered differently depending on whether you see Drupal as a primarily as a generalized CMS product or whether you see it as a development framework for a specific site. It's actually both a framework and a CMS product, but this tension has brought the Drupal project to a crossroads when trying to make these types of decisions of what to include in the main project and what core developers are responsible for maintaining.

Eaton talked more about this tension between product and framework at DrupalCon London in his presentation called "Product, Framework, or Platform?" Instead of creating a false dichotomy between the Product vs. Framework, eaton is using the term of "Platform" in order to incorporate both the CMS product and anything else that can be created with the module system and development framework.

Another top core developer Nathaniel Catchpole (aka catch) wrote up a couple of related blog posts including "Why all the drama?", where he does a bit of a retrospective as to what went wrong with the D7 development cycle from his perspective.

Catch also took a stab at expanding on the Drupal Framework vs. Product debate in another blog post called "Framework, Platform, Application, Features, Product, Workload" where he reiterates that Drupal is a hybrid of the two. He lays out a more nuanced and complicated 5-layered system for how he thinks of it, which is mentioned in this podcast a couple of times.

At the bottom of his post, catch points to a number of follow-up and related initiatives. Catch and sun created the "Unofficial Drupal 8 Framework initiative" that includes a lot of the low-level API clean-up.

In this podcast, catch and sun talk about the need to simplify and de-couple the system.module's responsibilities in order to do unit testing and make core debugging more manageable. Here's a list of issues tagged as part of this framework initiative.

There's also a number of issues tagged with the Platform Initiative, which is centering around the heuristics for which features should be in Drupal core, and which ones should be removed.

Another related project is eaton's Snowman initiative in order to create a number of installation profiles that give users a more options for what flavor of Drupal product that they'd like to use. There's also a meta issue from eaton "[meta] More flexibility for core installation profiles."

A related topic throughout all these discussions has been burnout of core developers. Randy Fay held Core Conversation about Burnout at DrupalCon London that is well worth watching. Fay also looked into a lot of research about burnout, and wrote an excellent series of blog posts:

In his Drupal Crisis post, sun says that "there are many more Drupal contributors who kept silent about their personal feelings for too long. In the end, we have several critical communication problems about fundamental topics in our community." This has been contributing to the feeling of burnout.

One solution to core burnout is to recruit more help for the core development workload. Sun and catch talk about the need in the Drupal core development community to recruit and mentor more people who "code gardeners" can test and evaluate patches.

Bringing up issues and having productive conversations are the first steps to finding solutions. We hope this discussion provides a valuable contribution to the conversation.

Podcast 96: Ryan Szrama on Drupal Commerce & Oral Hygiene

jeff — Fri, 09 Sep 2011 13:09:59 +0000

Ryan Szrama talks to Jeff Robbins about oral hygiene. The two also run down the history and latest news around Drupal Commerce.

Release Date: September 9, 2011 - 8:09am

Album: Lullabot Podcast

Length: 80:58 minutes (31.67 MB)

Format: mono 44kHz 54Kbps (vbr)

Podcast 95: Who is Jeffrey Zeldman?

jeff — Fri, 19 Aug 2011 14:00:00 +0000

The reigning king of web standards, Jeffrey Zeldman, speaks with Lullabot's Jared Ponchot and Jeff Robbins about the evolution and future directions of web technology. Jeffrey will be keynoting at this year's Do It With Drupal conference in October.

Release Date: August 19, 2011 - 9:00am

Album: Lullabot Podcast

Length: 71:35 minutes (28.73 MB)

Format: mono 44kHz 56Kbps (vbr)

Podcast 94: Josh Clark Interview

jeff — Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:42:36 +0000

Josh Clark, author of Tapworthy, and founder of Global Moxie talks about mobile design and development with Lullabot's Jared Ponchot and Jeff Robbins. Josh will be keynoting at The Do It With Drupal Conference in October.

Release Date: June 10, 2011 - 1:42pm

Album: Lullabot Podcast

Length: 69:43 minutes (27.58 MB)

Format: mono 44kHz 55Kbps (vbr)

Podcast 93: Chicago DrupalCon Wrapup

jeff — Mon, 28 Mar 2011 12:50:54 +0000

Angie Byron, Jeff Eaton, Kent Bye, Karen Stevenson, Jared Ponchot, Blake Hall, and Andrew Berry join Jeff Robbins to reminisce about DrupalCon Chicago.

Release Date: March 28, 2011 - 7:50am

Album: Lullabot Podcast

Length: 49:05 minutes (19.3 MB)

Format: mono 44kHz 54Kbps (vbr)

Podcast 92: Grammy.com

jeff — Fri, 25 Feb 2011 15:29:19 +0000

Jeff Robbins talks with Matt Westgate, Nate Haug, and The Recording Academy's Kevin Colligan about Lullabot's process for developing, deploying, testing, and scaling GRAMMY.com, the website for the GRAMMY music awards.

Mentioned in the podcast is LoadStorm.com for distributed load testing.

For more information for how to configure Varnish, Memecache, APC and make other performance tunings in Drupal, then be sure to check out our hands-on Drupal Performance & Scalability video available for purchase individually or as part of the subscription-based Drupalize.me.

Release Date: February 25, 2011 - 10:29am

Album: Lullabot Podcast

Length: 75:41 minutes (29.9 MB)

Format: mono 44kHz 55Kbps (vbr)

Podcast 91: (The Concept Of) The Drupal App Store

jeff — Fri, 04 Feb 2011 16:09:58 +0000

Views and Panels creator, Earl Miles, joins Jeff Eaton, Kent Bye, Seth Brown, and Jeff Robbins to discuss the Drupal App Store and how to raise $2,731,140 so Earl can buy a Ferrari.

Release Date: February 4, 2011 - 11:09am

Album: Lullabot Podcast

Length: 85:48 minutes (34.03 MB)

Format: mono 44kHz 55Kbps (vbr)

Podcast 90: Drupal 7, Are You Ready?

jeff — Fri, 14 Jan 2011 17:06:21 +0000

Drupal 7 is ready! But are you ready for Drupal 7? Should you start using it to build new sites? Should you upgrade all of your current sites? Angie Byron, Kent Bye, Jeff Eaton, Nate Haug, Joe Shindelar, and Jeff Robbins discuss the ins and outs and try to help listeners to decide whether they should start using Drupal 7.

This chart, created for the Webchick Drupal 7 Tour was the impetus for the discussion (click for PDF version):

Podcast links down below...

Release Date: January 14, 2011 - 12:06pm

Album: Lullabot Podcast

Length: 73:08 minutes (28.25 MB)

Format: mono 44kHz 53Kbps (vbr)

Podcast 89: How We Built Drupalize.me

jeff — Fri, 03 Dec 2010 20:20:47 +0000

Addi Berry, Kent Bye, Jared Ponchot, and Joe Shindaler join Jeff Robbins to talk about Lullabot's new video tutorial website: Drupalize.me. The team talks about key modules and methods used to build this premium video website.

Release Date: December 3, 2010 - 3:20pm

Album: Lullabot Podcast

Length: 87:22 minutes (34.53 MB)

Format: mono 44kHz 55Kbps (vbr)

Podcast 88: Copenhagen Loves Bon Jovi

jeff — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 16:22:09 +0000

Angie Byron, Addi Berry, Nate Haug, and Jeff Robbins report back from DrupalCon Copenhagen.

Release Date: September 6, 2010 - 11:22am

Album: Lullabot Podcast

Length: 62:48 minutes (24.37 MB)

Format: mono 44kHz 54Kbps (vbr)

Podcast 87: Panels vs Context, The Cage Match!

jeff — Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:13:15 +0000

Earl Miles and Young Hahn join Dave Burns, Jeff Eaton, and Jeff Robbins to discuss the similarities and differences between Drupal's Panels and Context modules. Earl is the creator of Panels. Young is the co-creator of Context as well as Features, Spaces, and several other great modules. We open up the cage, toss everyone in, and see what happens!

Also be sure to check out David Burns' article "Assembling Pages with Drupal," which also compares and contrasts Panels and Context.

Release Date: July 30, 2010 - 12:13pm

Album: Lullabot Podcast

Length: 64:07 minutes (25.1 MB)

Format: mono 44kHz 54Kbps (vbr)

Podcast 86: Drupal.org Redesign and Git Migration

jeff — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 17:58:08 +0000

Neil Drumm and Sam Boyer join Lullabot's Angie Byron and Jeff Robbins to discuss recent Drupal Association initiatives. Neil discusses his work leading the Drupal.org redesign effort and Sam discusses plans to migrate the Drupal code repository from CVS to Git.

Release Date: July 9, 2010 - 12:58pm

Album: Lullabot Podcast

Length: 78:39 minutes (31.04 MB)

Format: mono 44kHz 55Kbps (vbr)

Lullabot Podcast 85: Lullabot.com Redesign Recap

jeff — Fri, 04 Jun 2010 19:09:28 +0000

Jerad Bitner, Jared Ponchot, James Sansbury, and Jeff Robbins talk about the redesign, relaunch, and reworking of lullabot.com and talk about the development techniques used -- in particular the use of the Features and Context modules.

Release Date: June 4, 2010 - 2:09pm

Album: Lullabot Podcast

Length: 88:19 minutes (33.98 MB)

Format: mono 44kHz 53Kbps (vbr)

Podcast 84: All About Buzzr

jeff — Fri, 21 May 2010 12:18:18 +0000

The Lullabot team talks about the process of building Buzzr.com.

Release Date: May 21, 2010 - 7:18am

Album: Lullabot Podcast

Length: 75:24 minutes (29.61 MB)

Format: mono 44kHz 54Kbps (vbr)

Podcast 83: DrupalCon Wrapup

jeff — Fri, 30 Apr 2010 14:08:22 +0000

Jerad Bitner, Kent Bye, Angie Byron, Jeff Eaton, Karen Stevenson, and Jeff Robbins talk about DrupalCon San Francisco 2010.

Release Date: April 30, 2010 - 9:08am

Album: Lullabot Podcast

Length: 83:17 minutes (32.41 MB)

Format: mono 44kHz 54Kbps (vbr)

Lullabot Podcast 82: How Do You Pronounce Ægir?

jeff — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 13:04:26 +0000

Nate Haug, Jeff Eaton, Addi Berry, Karen Stevenson, Jerad Bitner, and Dave Burns join Jeff Robbins to talk about the latest Drupal news and try to figure out how to pronounce certain Old Norse words.

Release Date: March 4, 2010 - 8:04am

Album: Lullabot Podcast

Length: 60:56 minutes (24.01 MB)

Format: mono 44kHz 55Kbps (vbr)

Lullabot Podcast 81: Live from Do It With Drupal 2009

jeff — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 02:52:57 +0000

A panel of Drupal experts take questions at the Do It With Drupal Seminar 2009. Panel members: Nate Haug (Lullabot), Josh Koenig (Chapter Three), Emma Jane Hogbin (Hick Tech), Angie Byron (Lullabot), Ryan Szrama (Ubercart / Commerce Guys), Alec Hendry (MTV UK), Paul Reeves (MTV UK), and Jeff Robbins (Lullabot).

Release Date: December 31, 2009 - 9:52pm

Album: Lullabot Podcast

Length: 69:17 minutes (24.53 MB)

Format: mono 44kHz 49Kbps (vbr)

Lullabot Podcast 80: Top 40 Drupal Modules Revisited

jeff — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:09:27 +0000

Angie Byron, Jeff Eaton, Nate Haug, Kent Bye, and Jeff Robbins discuss the latest Drupal news and then revisit the Drupal Top 40 podcast, this time with a list of 50+ "must have" Drupal modules. Enjoy this epic 2 hour podcast!

Release Date: November 9, 2009 - 10:09am

Album: Lullabot Podcast

Length: 117:27 minutes (46.25 MB)

Format: mono 44kHz 55Kbps (vbr)

Podcast 79: Drupal 7

jeff — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:00:00 +0000

Angie Byron, Nate Haug, Karen Stevenson, and Jeff Robbins discuss the new features of Drupal 7 as well as the latest Drupal news.

Release Date: October 30, 2009 - 3:00am

Album: Lullabot Podcast

Length: 73:33 minutes (28.66 MB)

Format: mono 44kHz 54Kbps (vbr)

Podcast 78: Drupal Screwups and Common Mistakes

jeff — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 05:23:00 +0000

Addi Berry, Angie Byron, Jeff Eaton, Karen Stevenson, and Jeff Robbins talk about their own screwups as Drupal newbies and common mistakes often seen when creating Drupal sites. The podcast includes a long list of common site building, coding, and Drupal project planning mistakes, screwups, and kerfuffles. If you're new to Drupal, please, learn from our mistakes!

Pick of the week: Migrate module

Release Date: October 16, 2009 - 12:23am

Album: Lullabot Podcast

Length: 85:13 minutes (33.32 MB)

Format: mono 44kHz 54Kbps (vbr)

Lullabot Drupal Podcast

Podcast 102: DrupalCon Denver Wrapup

Podcast 101: Blue Drop Awards

Podcast 100: A Look Back

Lullabot Podcast 99: Drupalize.me 1-year Retrospective

Podcast 98: Live from Do It With Drupal 2011

Podcast 97: Drupal Drama: Burnout, D7 Retrospective & Product vs. Framework debate

Show notes

Other related links

Podcast 96: Ryan Szrama on Drupal Commerce & Oral Hygiene

Podcast 95: Who is Jeffrey Zeldman?

Podcast 94: Josh Clark Interview

Podcast 93: Chicago DrupalCon Wrapup

Podcast 92: Grammy.com

Podcast 91: (The Concept Of) The Drupal App Store

Podcast 90: Drupal 7, Are You Ready?

Podcast 89: How We Built Drupalize.me

Podcast 88: Copenhagen Loves Bon Jovi

Podcast 87: Panels vs Context, The Cage Match!

Podcast 86: Drupal.org Redesign and Git Migration

Lullabot Podcast 85: Lullabot.com Redesign Recap

Podcast 84: All About Buzzr

Podcast 83: DrupalCon Wrapup

Lullabot Podcast 82: How Do You Pronounce Ægir?

Lullabot Podcast 81: Live from Do It With Drupal 2009

Lullabot Podcast 80: Top 40 Drupal Modules Revisited

Podcast 79: Drupal 7

Podcast 78: Drupal Screwups and Common Mistakes